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He has no experience in chip foundry.
At this time, he has to rely on Zhang Rujing to fight hard with TSMC.
However, Chen Yu has no idea about Center International, but he is extremely interested in the upstream industry of chip manufacturing.
As we all know, chip manufacturing begins with chip architecture design.
This one is relatively simple, you just need to design a usable chip architecture.
This is a soft technology, and you can just throw people and money at it.
Of course, to put it simply, there is actually an arm architecture first, you have to design directly with their authorization, and then develop on this basis.But it's a bit difficult to come up with your own architecture and make it available to everyone in the world.But this piece of Universal Technology has already been deployed, and Chen Yu is not particularly worried.
The real concern is chip manufacturing.
Strictly speaking, Center International and TSMC are not the core manufacturing departments.
In fact, they are not much different from ordinary electronic foundries.
It's just that they are OEMs for more high-end products, chips.
But in the process of chip foundry, a series of equipment needs to be purchased.
Some other equipment is okay to say.
Such as single crystal furnaces, oxidation furnaces, polishing machines, etching machines, ion implantation machines... All of these can be produced in China.
The performance can't be said to be the best in the world, but at least it can keep up with the team.
But in it, the lithography machine with the most complicated technology can only be imported.
Of course, it does not mean that there are no lithography machines in China.The domestic electronic technology group, Shanghai Machinery Factory can still produce lithography machines.However, this lithography machine is just in its infancy, and the chips produced can at most be used on DVDs.
However, high-end electronic chips such as mobile phones can only use foreign lithography machines.
Among them, the most cutting-edge and top-notch lithography machine of the Dutch ASML company is from them.
If it was the previous life, it would be very difficult for Chen Yu to break this situation.
Even if it is to be broken, it will take many years.
But at present, although the lithography machine of the Dutch ASML company is very good, the lithography machine technology of several other countries is also not bad.
For example, Nikon's lithography machine in Japan, Canon's lithography machine, Panlin Semiconductor in the United States, and Suss in Germany.
The lithography machines produced by these companies are among the mainstream lithography machines in the world.
As for why ASML's lithography machines have not dominated the world, it is entirely because the current mobile phones have not yet developed to a certain height.
In the era when smart phones have not yet appeared, the market generally does not have a great demand for mobile phone chips.
This demand is not only a quantity demand, but also a quality demand.
Just like Huanyu Technology now makes Tianwen chips.
To be honest, the performance parameters of this Tianwen chip are very average, and the only advantage is that it integrates a multimedia system.
However, in the era of functional phones, everyone does not have such high requirements for the performance of chips.
It's useless to have such a high demand?
The operating system of the feature phone is so simple, it can only make calls, take pictures, and play a small game at most.
Such an operating system can be developed by an undergraduate student.
With such a low-level operating system, he doesn't need an advanced chip at all.
And Tianwen chips are selling extremely hot in such a market.
At the same time, as long as a phone with a Tianwen chip is installed, it can defeat other mobile phones.
In the same way, Center International does not need to import such a powerful lithography machine, he can produce such an ordinary Tianwen chip.
But if smart phones appear, the performance requirements of smart phones for chips are getting higher and higher.Then, chip manufacturers can only use more sophisticated chips.
Then at this time, the time for Europe and the United States to pinch your neck has come.
Chen Yu thought carefully.
At this time, the strengths of all major lithography machine companies are about the same. At most, ASML is a little better, but this is not so good.At the same time, none of these companies has really entered the extreme ultraviolet lithography field.And the lithography machine developed with this technology is the most advanced euv lithography machine in the previous life.
If Chen Yu enters at this time, there is really a little hope.
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"Dean, I have something to discuss with you."
"Okay, I'll come to your office."
After receiving Chen Yu's call, Li Biqing rushed to Chen Yu's office immediately.
Li Biqing knew that generally speaking, Chen Yu would not look for him.
There must be something important to find him.
"Chen Yu, what's the matter?"
As soon as he entered the door, Li Biqing asked.
"Dean, why are you so serious, come on, have a drink first."
"You boy, you didn't call me here for tea, did you?"
"Of course there are things, but don't make it so serious."
At this time, Dean Li Biqing has no specific responsibility in Huanyu Technology.
He Tingbo is in charge of the chip, and more often, Li Biqing acts as a senior technical consultant for Universal Technology.
For example, the layout of the chip, and handling a small number of public relations affairs.
"Tell me, if you don't tell me, I'm not interested in drinking tea."
"Dean, you really..."
Chen Yu has nothing to do with Li Biqing.
"Actually, it's nothing, Dean, do you have any research on lithography machines?"
"There's a fart study."
Li Biqing shook his head directly: "I am a retired dean of the Computer Department of Shencheng University. Do you think I have researched all technologies?"
"Uh, Dean, I just want to ask your opinion on the lithography machine."
"If you want to talk about your views on lithography machines, it's about the same."
Li Biqing said: "Why, Chen Yu, do you want to use a lithography machine?"
"I made a phone call with Zhang Rujing earlier, and he said that it cost hundreds of millions to buy a lithography machine. I don't feel sorry for the money. If we can also produce a lithography machine, do you think the hundreds of millions are worth it?" Saved?"
"I'll go, you kid has a lot of appetite, and you actually want to make a lithography machine."
Li Biqing was extremely surprised.
It's just that Chen Yu even wants to work on chips and operating systems.
It seems understandable to engage in upstream industry lithography machines related to chips.
"Let's forget it. Our lithography machine technology is too different from that of foreign countries. We just want to do it, and there is no drama."
Although there is not much technical research on lithography machines, Li Biqing still knows about lithography machines.
"Dean, the distance between us and foreign countries is too big, so I want to do it. If the difference is not too big, I don't want to do it yet."
Chen Yu's thinking has always been different from others.
Li Biqing originally wanted to persuade Chen Yu, but suddenly felt that Chen Yu's words were very reasonable.
"It makes sense, but this area is not so easy to enter. Later, I will contact several domestic companies that manufacture lithography machines."
"No, I'm not interested in them."
It's not that Chen Yu is really not interested in those companies, but that Chen Yu knows.
Even in 2020 in the previous life, none of these companies produced a decent lithography machine.
"Then what do you mean?"
Li Biqing asked puzzledly.
"What I mean is, look at these lithography machine companies abroad, do they need investment?"
"Investment...Chen Yu, you are here again. Where did you get so much money? These lithography machine companies have to invest tens of billions at every turn. You still owe so much foreign debt, from banks, from Center International , In addition, the chip is still being developed and researched, so don't make the stall too big, if the funds cannot be turned around by then, the problem will be serious."
In fact, Li Biqing is also a little worried about Huanding Technology now.
It used to be okay to use the Internet.
Going from the internet to your phone is no problem.
But from mobile phones to chips, from mobile phones to operating systems, to computers, to chip foundry... Although it cannot be said that there is a problem.But at least, all of these require huge funds.Moreover, each of these fields requires huge investment, but it is difficult to get any return in the early stage.
For example, Center International's foundry business, although Center International's business is so good now, it has never made money.
Not only do they not make money, but they also lose money.
An expansion of production capacity will cost 30 billion yuan.
In the future, technology upgrades will have to be carried out, and it is unknown how much investment will be required.
When you really make money, you don't know it's the year of the monkey.
Chen Yu was naturally aware of this.
Seeing Li Biqing's worry, Chen Yu said: "Dean, you don't have to worry about the funds. Since I want to enter these fields, I naturally have a way to raise money. Otherwise, I also know that the step is too big. , easy to pull the egg."
"Damn it... You kid, swearing in front of my old man."
Li Biqing said with a smile.
"Uh, Dean, that's what it means anyway."
"Now that you have thought it over clearly, I can help you understand it first. However, don't think too much. One of the foreign companies that can produce lithography machines is in Japan, one is in Germany, and the other is in the Netherlands... Even if Even if you have money, they may not accept your investment."
"This is not necessarily the case. Let's see how the market is doing."
"Row."
Discuss with Li Biqing.
Chen Yu then went to the game department of Universal Technology.
At present, Huanyu Technology is under a lot of financial pressure, and Chen Yu attaches great importance to games.
Although the battle is already very profitable, Chen Yu feels that he can make more money.
And this way of making money is the most classic strategy in the game: surrounding the city from the countryside.
Chapter 706: Breaking Millions Online in a Month
After receiving Chen Yu's arrangement, Li Biqing was actually not very optimistic about this business.
Not to mention the technical complexity of the lithography machine, the capital scale is also very large.
However, this is not the most important thing.
The most important thing is that even if you invest in lithography machine manufacturers in Europe, America and Japan, you may not be able to control them.
Even if you control them, it does not mean that these companies can customize lithography machines for Universal Technology.
In it, an agreement is involved, which is called the "Wasenaar Agreement".
Since we are going to talk about the Wassenaar Agreement, we must not mention the previous organization, the Paris Coordinating Committee, referred to as Batumi.
The so-called Batumi is actually a product of the Cold War period after World War II.
At that time, the United States and the Soviet Union were fighting for hegemony, and the alliance represented by the United States was proposed by the United States. In order to prevent the Soviet Union and its allies from developing high-end equipment, technological weapons, the organization imposed an embargo on a series of high-end products.It is precisely because of this kind of control that when our country studied the atomic bomb, it was not even possible to buy a computer. Later, it was completed with a hand-operated computer.
And not everyone has a hand-held computer. It was normal for scientists at that time to have an abacus.
Therefore, it is not bragging to say that many data of the atomic bomb are calculated by abacus.
Later, although Batumi was disbanded, they came up with a stricter "Wasenaar Agreement", which made stricter settings for both military and famous uses in the embargo list.Although generally speaking, the agreement countries can voluntarily control according to their own needs, but in fact they are still subject to the United States in many cases.
It is precisely because of this agreement that he has greatly affected the development of the domestic chip industry.